Refusal of transfer

“"at one point before he was, on a ventilator, he asked me to look into whether he could go to a different hospital because he was so unhappy there. And they told me they wouldn't they said they wouldn't release him, and they said no other hospital would accept him in the condition that he was in. So there was no way that he could go to another hospital.”

“"suddenly, now that we got a judge to order the medication that they refused to administer, it was now vital for them to get him out of the hospital and transfer him.”

“"I told them I don't want him transferred. You know, that that just wiped out the whole lawsuit. Everything that we worked so hard for, all the money that I had to people donated to help my husband to get this attorney, and it all went out the window.”

“"We had requested it earlier on because, obviously, the care at Baylor, I I was scared for his life. But at this point, with the lawsuit going through, I told them I don't want him transferred.”

“I think they gave him remdesivir. I, we had very good insurance. And that's another thing, I think the reason why they have the incentivized hospitals, if we had not had insurance, I, they would have let him go to UT, southwestern parkland, Baylor, anywhere else, but because we have insurance, and then they were getting paid for everything they did, he was better. There is no there was no need to do this.”

“"I said, my husband's only fifty eight years old. And, you know, basically, he's talking, eating, watching TV, sitting up in a recliner with a nasal cannula. There's absolutely no reason my husband should die in the hospital... They kept me away from my husband. They had a very strict no visitor policy, was not a lie allowed to visit. He could not have an advocate by the bedside... At one point, I even offered to pay for a helicopter ride to another hospital if they could find a bed... One was that he was improving, which he was not. And then the other two were because they said there were no beds... So my husband was a prisoner, not a patient... as they kept him in there, his respiratory infection that he'd come in with, was getting worse... I started asking for that, demanding that... And I constantly was told, oh, this is COVID pneumonia, and the COVID protocol doesn't allow for antibiotics.”

“"I absolutely believe my dad was murdered in the hospital Mhmm. Without a doubt... They violated his civil rights. He he's we wanted him out, and they wouldn't let him out. They violated his medical rights, which are federal laws. These are not just guidelines. These are federal laws. And then and then, I don't know, a little matter of murder, not medical malfeasance, not medical malpractice, murder. If I lock you into a room in my house and I give you a sub a substance that has a fifty three percent chance of causing your kidneys to fail, that is murder.”

“"He was asking to be moved to another hospital, and they refused to have him removed or sent to another hospital.”

“"I said, can we move her? And he said, if you find another doctor that's willing to take your mother, I'll gladly move her. That was his words. That's when I went on a search.”

“"But during the whole time, we tried to get my father, removed from this hospital and transferred over to Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles. And, Cedars refused to take him, and Mission Hospital refused to release him.”

“"people everybody I knew, that worked in the medical field, not everybody, but several people I knew said, get him out of the hospital. You gotta get him out of the hospital. I couldn't get him out of the hospital.”

“"After explaining to Catherine Lorenzo that the DNR was illegally processed in their system, she argued with us and asked inappropriate questions. You understand we can break her ribs if we have to resuscitate. You understand this is against patient's wishes. After getting DNR removed, she was no longer eligible for the vent. She never received accurate reasoning why as to why she couldn't be transferred. This was when we tried to transfer her. First, we were told it was due to her declining to be ventilated, which prompted them to switch her to DNR. Then we were told it was due to the same level they had the same level of care at other hospitals, meaning other hospitals can provide the same level of care at Saint Elizabeth's, and they...and if they were to accept her, that we would be have to pay for out of pocket transfer expenses.”

“"when this one of the doctors, doctor Melody Shen, looked at us and says, I don't have time to call around the hospitals to get them on ECMO. We don't have one. And when we said, we've called around Baylor University, we'll send a team here. They looked and says we're not gonna do that. And so my husband and I in that room with the with these very young doctors and a and a very young palliative representative, we realized that we were in something so much darker and deeper and contrived than we could have ever imagined. And now we knew that our our son's life was in danger and that, it was gonna take a miracle for him to make it out.”

“"And they said that our hospital here in Tomahawk wasn't a COVID hospital so they would not treat him. And she said, this man needs some antibiotics. ... we had heard about a place in Medford, Wisconsin that was a good doctor's office and we heard that, they believed in ivermectin and treated their patients in that manner.”

“"And when I got in there, they had a diaper on Britney. It was so wet. I coulda wrung it out. It woulda just it woulda just ran with urine... my penis, private area, it was smeared with BM. He must have had a ball movement. They never really cleaned him up. He said, he had a sore on his testicle... we tried to get him moved to Madison... And that doctor that was in there said, we have no ambulance for you. You cannot move him... Bernie was so hungry... we got brought up butterscotch pudding and we gave it to him and he threw it up.”

“"the doctor said, we just want you to know that if his oxygen doesn't come up and his heartbeat don't go down when removing the oxygen tomorrow morning... we would like him to move to Madison... that doctor that was in there said, we have no ambulance for you. You cannot move him. And my husband works in Madison, and he said she said he'd never get on that machine.”

“"it was in the beginning, they called me in the middle of the night and said, get to get here. He's in a coma. You need to get here right away. We're gonna we're gonna send him to the hospital. Well, I had to fight to get him to the hospital.”

“"my family tried to get her out of there to get her some other care, and they wouldn't let her transferred. Said it was she was too frail or too risky or what have you.”

“"So I beg him, can I just call the ambulance? He doesn't want me to call the ambulance.”

“"I hear another nurse come in and say, never mind. We're not taking her. She doesn't need to go with this at this point. And the nurse that was doing all this work to pack her up and everything said, you know, I thought that was weird because I thought she was getting better.”

“"He refused for me to be able to come in... after twenty one days, I was able to go in, and I was able to by that time, they had already intubated, and they put him onto life support... the final doctor who I refer to as doctor Depp... He wouldn't give me any hope. He wouldn't let us transfer him to another hospital... that doctor took him off a full code and put him on the DNR without any... letting me know without approval.”

“"I'm still fighting to try to get all his records. They still won't send me all his records. I've actually told them I was gonna contact a lawyer to get them.”

“"So we tried to get him out of that hospital, but the doctors had to sign off on him leaving the hospital, and they refused to do it...basically, he was a prisoner there in that hospital.”

“"we actually tried to getting transferred to the Wexner Center, down in Columbus, which is a a large teaching institution, and I wish my daughter has connections with. And we were basically told that they would not accept him unless the hospital did not have something that they did. And that and they said because they can't even get their own patients in, that kind of thing. And he’s and the conversation ended with, I'm sorry that you're not gonna be able to transfer him, and good luck, and they hung up.”