Perception of malevolence
Victim states or feels like hospital staff is torturing them or going to kill them.
These testimony clips are drawn from interviews conducted by CHBMP with families and survivors. Each clip stands as evidence and remembrance. We share them to honor those who came forward, to seek accountability, and to ensure these experiences are never forgotten.
“"I had one night nurse that was really scary... I was kinda calling out because I time was ticking.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"they over oxygenated me, and now I understand that they do that because it hastens your demise. But, no mouth care with with the high oxygen.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"they know that they're saving the and it's it's to me, it's actually criminal that these hospitals, these hospital administrators are not having frontline doctors in to talk about their protocol that's so effective... ordering doctors not to do it, not don't do this, you know, thing that's saving so many people. Even to the point of banning or or forbidding doctors to prescribe vitamin c, when would that ever happen?”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"I'm not okay. I'm being neglected and abused in this hospital, and they are going to kill me.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"As soon as he was put on vent, palliative care started coming in and bothering us. We even said we do not want palliative care. They continued to come in and started suggesting that we do a DNR to protect his good heart as they were wanting to harvest when this was all done. Again, we kept telling them we do not want palliative care. They continued. Every every day, somebody would come in acting all caring and trying to push for a DNR. Later several weeks later, a doc different doctors would walk in and say, he sure is a tough old guy. Meaning, what was taking so long for him to die?... Because Scott and White is a teaching hospital, They were experimenting and just trying to make excellent insurance, and I don't know what else to add.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"Every every day, somebody would come in acting all caring and trying to push for a DNR... meaning, what was taking so long for him to die? And he was tough. He was he was a healthy man...”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"We noticed in the last week, they were, no. Well, they weren't coming in quite as often. And we noticed that, like, the last couple of days, they finally turned him over on his back and left him. So we felt like then they thought this is it, or this is when they were gonna make it it.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"They continued to come in and started suggesting that we do a DNR to protect his good heart as they were wanting to to harvest when this was all done. Again, we kept telling them we do not want palliative care... I believe that Because Scott and White is a teaching hospital, they were experimenting and just trying to make excellent insurance...”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"if this was as as, dangerous an illness as they say it was, it just seemed to me like the doctors should have been more involved. They, you know, they should have been more hands on.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And instead, eventually, your organs are gonna begin to shut down when you're on heavy drugs like that for that long. ... And I think they were planning to do that the next day.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"at one point before he was, on a ventilator, he asked me to look into whether he could go to a different hospital because he was so unhappy there. And they told me they wouldn't they said they wouldn't release him, and they said no other hospital would accept him in the condition that he was in. So there was no way that he could go to another hospital.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"some of the nurses made comments to me, and other people have since said the same thing, that putting the patient like that on the ventilator was a death sentence that, so few of them ever got better.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"I could not shake this horrible guilt feeling that I brought him there. You know, I picked that hospital. Maybe a different hospital would have been better...”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"They said they were trying to turn him. I don't know if I believed that. And they stopped turning him because every time they turned him on his stomach, they said his oxygen level dropped so much that they had to put him back on his back.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"some of the nurses made comments to me, and other people have since said the same thing, that putting the patient like that on the on the ventilator was a death sentence that, so few of them ever got better.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"suddenly, now that we got a judge to order the medication that they refused to administer, it was now vital for them to get him out of the hospital and transfer him.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"there wasn't a machine in sight. He wasn't hooked up to anything, and he was gone.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"My husband's oxygen, he was not stable. He was not stable to be transferred. I was sick about it. The doctors told me, you know, he'll be fine.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"they had taken me into a room and asked me to sign a DNR, and I said absolutely not.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"And in addition to this, he had he had developed sepsis. And I believe with everything in me, it was from that bed store. It was at at this point, it had been a stage four, and then it was the next level where they can't they can't even judge it. I forget what it's called. But they also weren't addressing it. They weren't wound care wasn't seeing it. They told me that he desatted if he was turned, so they could not turn him. And and I would tell them that if you don't turn him, he's going to get a severe infection, and that's going to take him. So you've got to try something, and they didn't.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"But as soon as I found out, I was livid because my husband's oxygen the day he asked to be intubated. He wasn't it wasn't medically necessary, so I knew he wasn't as sick as they were making him out to be by introducing palliative care. And I I told him, you know, they haven't tried everything. They're not doing everything they can. I I want to try ivermectin. You told the doctor literally told me we've done everything we can. It's up to God and Kyle's body. So for me, why wouldn't you try ivermectin? If you're telling me you've done everything you can, why won't you try it?”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"And there wasn't a machine in sight. He wasn't hooked up to anything, and he was gone. The room had been cleaned, and it was just him laying there in complete silence, and I just collapsed in the doorway.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"But as soon as I found out, I was livid because my husband's oxygen the day he asked to be intubated. He wasn't it wasn't medically necessary, so I knew he wasn't as sick as they were making him out to be by introducing palliative care... if you're telling me you've done everything you can, why won't you try it?”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"And I forgot to mention a few weeks prior to this, they had taken me into a room and asked me to sign a DNR, and I said absolutely not. Absolutely not. And they told me that if they tried to resuscitate him, that they would break his ribs and that it would be disastrous.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires