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These testimony clips are drawn from interviews conducted by CHBMP with families and survivors. Each clip stands as evidence and remembrance. We share them to honor those who came forward, to seek accountability, and to ensure these experiences are never forgotten.
“you can use things off you use medications off label all the time, you know, whether it's for, you know, weight loss or asthma or whatever.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"And my daughter had been asking for vitamin c, you know, high dose of vitamin c, all the vitamins and stuff like that. And, you know, that was early from early on, she was told initially, she was told that there was a shortage.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“suddenly, I wasn't gonna get the ivermectin. Yeah. They couldn't give the ivermectin, they said, because it's you know, they go they they they give you the same line. It's not it's not FDA approved. Yes. It is FDA FDA approved, and, you know, I argued with them a lot about that. And then it was, what about the budesonine? No. I can't do that because, they, you know, they just they they didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do the budesonine.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"the fact of the matter is, as I I was almost to the point of dying... if I had gotten that protocol with supplemental oxygen when I first went to the hospital, I probably would have been there for three days and gone, just like colonel West.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"And they kept saying, you're leaving AMA against medical advice. And I said, no. I'm not leaving AMA because I have a lot of doctors advising me if I don't leave, I'm gonna die. I'm leaving home hospice, not AMA. And we went back and forth. The police were called. They kinda had like, for hours. I think we were there about six or seven hours going back and forth negotiating this.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"they know that they're saving the and it's it's to me, it's actually criminal that these hospitals, these hospital administrators are not having frontline doctors in to talk about their protocol that's so effective... ordering doctors not to do it, not don't do this, you know, thing that's saving so many people. Even to the point of banning or or forbidding doctors to prescribe vitamin c, when would that ever happen?”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"there was a female doctor that tried to kind of gaslight me into staying. You know, they try to scare you into staying and dealing with their protocol, and, and I can't be gaslit. Right? Like, so she was she was saying to me, she said, you know, he can't there's no way to to manage your oxygen outside of a hospital. He can't do it. And, my husband kinda interjected and she said, no, I need to talk to her. She she said and I looked at my husband and I said, do you have everything you need to manage my oxygen at home? And he said, I do. And I told her, I said, I trust my husband. And if I die at his hands, it's better than dying at your hands. And, and we're leaving.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my husband on the fourteenth of December, he came up, and, they wouldn't let him come see me.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my daughter had been asking for vitamin c, you know, high dose of vitamin c, all the vitamins and stuff like that. And, you know, that was early from early on, she was told initially, she was told that there was a shortage. They were saving the vitamin c for the most, most critical of patients, and my daughter was like, doctor Quach told my mom she was gonna die. I think that's pretty critical. And then she's like the nurse was like, well, there's a national shortage of vitamin c.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my husband would say, budesonine every four hours, one milligram of budesonine every four hours won't hurt her... Ivermectin won't hurt her. No. But it won't work... They did give me one round of remdesivir that I did not want... they had me listed as a DNR the whole time I was there as a DNR... we were quite clear that that was not the case.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"At that point, we said, what will we gain? They said a couple of hours, and that's when we said, just stop. I believe that Because Scott and White is a teaching hospital, They were experimenting and just trying to make excellent insurance...”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"No. It's not. There was a few things they said I just thought... I answered with, well, he he's healthy. He he's a strong man.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"They continued to come in and started suggesting that we do a DNR to protect his good heart as they were wanting to to harvest when this was all done. Again, we kept telling them we do not want palliative care... I believe that Because Scott and White is a teaching hospital, they were experimenting and just trying to make excellent insurance...”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"It is not the protocol... They have a group of doctors that gather every week, and they make the decision of what works, what doesn't work, and what they're going to allow.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"if this was as as, dangerous an illness as they say it was, it just seemed to me like the doctors should have been more involved. They, you know, they should have been more hands on.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"some of the nurses made comments to me, and other people have since said the same thing, that putting the patient like that on the ventilator was a death sentence that, so few of them ever got better.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"you know, the nurses being very inattentive [...] he was really unhappy. And he asked me to ask, that that nurse not, see him. [...] But those five days that he was in ICU without being on a ventilator, his condition still did not improve. [...] I do have to say he, he had type two diabetes, and he was overweight. [...] So my daughter ran to get me, and by the time she did she was staying with me at my house just so I wasn't alone. [...] And, consequently, he was on a ventilator for thirty days. [...] But when they put you on a ventilator, they put you in a coma, like, medically induced coma. And they also paralyze you, which was just shocking and and frightening to me to hear that. And no one was explaining to me what that what this all meant.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"It says it's due to COVID, pneumonia, and, acute I'm sorry. Respiratory syndrome? Yeah.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And I think they were planning to do that the next day. And and, so the next day, I spoke to the nurse. She said they were gonna do that, and then I didn't hear anything back.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And the hospital said, no. So and also as it turned out, even though our GP was, had privileges at that hospital, she was not allowed to see him either. Only the infectious disease doctor, was allowed to see him.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"They said they were trying to turn him. I don't know if I believed that. And they stopped turning him because every time they turned him on his stomach, they said his oxygen level dropped so much that they had to put him back on his back.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And I just felt like I was lucky that I had a brother who's a doctor and that I had more information. I felt so bad for all the other patients and their families because no one was telling them anything. No one was explaining anything to them.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"Of course, during this time, because it was COVID and everything was kind of crazy at the hospital. They didn't allow any visitors. They didn't allow me in. Even though I had COVID too and recovered, and tested negative, and I begged them and said, I I I I'll sign a release so that I don't hold you responsible if I get sick again. Just please let me see my husband. Not only did they not let me see my husband, but their policy was that you couldn't even come inside the hospital.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And turned out it was like an inflatable raft that you put in your swimming pool to play with, and that's what they put under the patients. And he was developing, pressure sores. ... I took photographs of them all to send to my brother because I couldn't believe it. They they had them on, fentanyl and ketamine and propofol and all these, you know, that I knew were super super, addictive... how do you expect a patient to fight an illness if you have put them in a coma and they're completely unable to... improve his own condition in any way.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges