Denied alternative treatments
Denied requests (often ridiculed) for treatments like Vitamins, Ivermectin, Budesonide, Hydroxychloroquine, etc. False statements made that they are not “FDA Approved” or do not work.
These testimony clips are drawn from interviews conducted by CHBMP with families and survivors. Each clip stands as evidence and remembrance. We share them to honor those who came forward, to seek accountability, and to ensure these experiences are never forgotten.
“"And my daughter had been asking for vitamin c, you know, high dose of vitamin c, all the vitamins and stuff like that. And, you know, that was early from early on, she was told initially, she was told that there was a shortage.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“suddenly, I wasn't gonna get the ivermectin. Yeah. They couldn't give the ivermectin, they said, because it's you know, they go they they they give you the same line. It's not it's not FDA approved. Yes. It is FDA FDA approved, and, you know, I argued with them a lot about that. And then it was, what about the budesonine? No. I can't do that because, they, you know, they just they they didn't want to do it. They didn't want to do the budesonine.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"I would they started to give me budesonide finally, but they would only give it to me the doctor had actually ordered it every four hours. He he relented. The pulmonologist relented and decided to do it every four hours. The pharmacy and the administration of the hospital denied that order and said I can only have it every eight hours. And so then the fight was on from there because, you know, then sometimes it's late and it's every ten hours or whatever. ... and ivermectin. And he was like, no. We're not gonna do you know? It's just, like, they would come, and they would be like, no. You know?”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"they know that they're saving the and it's it's to me, it's actually criminal that these hospitals, these hospital administrators are not having frontline doctors in to talk about their protocol that's so effective... ordering doctors not to do it, not don't do this, you know, thing that's saving so many people. Even to the point of banning or or forbidding doctors to prescribe vitamin c, when would that ever happen?”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my husband on the fourteenth of December, he came up, and, they wouldn't let him come see me.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my daughter had been asking for vitamin c, you know, high dose of vitamin c, all the vitamins and stuff like that. And, you know, that was early from early on, she was told initially, she was told that there was a shortage. They were saving the vitamin c for the most, most critical of patients, and my daughter was like, doctor Quach told my mom she was gonna die. I think that's pretty critical. And then she's like the nurse was like, well, there's a national shortage of vitamin c.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"my husband would say, budesonine every four hours, one milligram of budesonine every four hours won't hurt her... Ivermectin won't hurt her. No. But it won't work... They did give me one round of remdesivir that I did not want... they had me listed as a DNR the whole time I was there as a DNR... we were quite clear that that was not the case.”
From the testimony of Gail Seiler
“"Every time we ask for a certain type of medication that we'd heard worked for somebody, more than once, the answer was always, it is not the protocol... anything we ask for, it was not protocol. Now saying that, the last couple of weeks, there were some antibiotics we set. We asked for budesonide to be given to him. So they gave it, but you can tell that they were just giving it to satisfy us. They only gave him the and I, like, twice a day, which was not enough.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"Meanwhile, we had he was the the nasal o two nasal was not enough for him, and we had requested BiPAP. Well, we were told that he could they could not have a BiPAP because it would throw the virus out into the air. It was another protocol. Well, later that evening, here came a BiPAP machine. So they did put him on one.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"Every time we ask for a certain type of medication that we'd heard worked for somebody, more than once, the answer was always, it is not the protocol. We were told that once, twenty five times... we asked for budesonine to be given to him. So they gave it, but you can tell that they were just giving it to satisfy us. They only gave him the and I, like, twice a day, which was not enough.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"It is not the protocol... They have a group of doctors that gather every week, and they make the decision of what works, what doesn't work, and what they're going to allow.”
From the testimony of Sammie Hosch
“"I think it was the fact that that it was COVID is what made it wasn't that he was so sick. Like, normally, if you have the flu, you don't go to the emergency room. But because it was we were COVID positive, that was frightening. You know? And so it was like, oh, well, it's COVID. We better go, you know, get the good drugs and get, you know, get better.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"It says it's due to COVID, pneumonia, and, acute I'm sorry. Respiratory syndrome? Yeah.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"And the hospital said, no. So and also as it turned out, even though our GP was, had privileges at that hospital, she was not allowed to see him either. Only the infectious disease doctor, was allowed to see him.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"some of the nurses made comments to me, and other people have since said the same thing, that putting the patient like that on the on the ventilator was a death sentence that, so few of them ever got better.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"But if this was as as, dangerous an illness as they say it was, it just seemed to me like the doctors should have been more involved. They, you know, they should have been more hands on. There's so many things I could mention. I mean, like, one of the things my brother told me is, you know, ask them if they can put him on a a mattress that, that rotates a little so that he doesn't get bed sores.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"The way they managed, the blood sugar is, you know, sometimes it was way high, other times it was so low they had to give him glucose because it became hypoglycemic.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"Also, I think at that time when we first got there, I think my husband did ask them about, hydroxychloroquine as a possibility. No one had been talking about ivermectin at that point, but people were talking about hydroxychloroquine. And the hospital said, no.”
From the testimony of Ed Hodges
“"suddenly, now that we got a judge to order the medication that they refused to administer, it was now vital for them to get him out of the hospital and transfer him.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"He was restrained. Yes. He was restrained. [...] during the time that he was at Baylor and unable to get the ivermectin via the hospital, he was receiving ivermectin. [...] I would see them giving him more drugs.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"I it's it's making me angry just thinking about it more and more that that that medication is so safe, and they wouldn't try everything to help my husband.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"But as soon as I found out, I was livid because my husband's oxygen the day he asked to be intubated. He wasn't it wasn't medically necessary, so I knew he wasn't as sick as they were making him out to be by introducing palliative care. And I I told him, you know, they haven't tried everything. They're not doing everything they can. I I want to try ivermectin. You told the doctor literally told me we've done everything we can. It's up to God and Kyle's body. So for me, why wouldn't you try ivermectin? If you're telling me you've done everything you can, why won't you try it?”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“At this point, I just saw that they didn't want him to get well.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires
“"And come to find out the dose of ivermectin that we were giving him was, like, three times too little. He should have been getting three times more. I guess the doctor we got it from just wasn't aware of the the guidelines.”
From the testimony of Kyle Squires